How To Tell What Degree The V-drive Is?

[GR8WHITE]

hey guys well just like the title says i wanted input on what to look for to tell what degree the v-drive is in my boat, thanks guys again for the help.:D

[Flatmvn]

There is a casting number on the case.

61000 is usualy a 10*
62500 is usualy a 12*

There were some 62500 they say that were 10* but I havent seen one. If I an wrong I am sure some one will correct me but those are the basics.

Louis

[GR8WHITE]

what part of the case? would it be facing the back of the boat on the bottom or something? :confused:

[Flatmvn]

Should be located on the case half that faces the transom, on the left side (drivers) about half way down from the top.
Here is a pic see the number by his thumb between the water hole and bolt hole that is it.

http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=114&d=1207685785

[GR8WHITE]

sweet thanks for the info

[RiverRacer]

Be careful, it is known that the numbers are not always a 100% accurate, the easy way to a positive ID is to use this $4.95 cheapo tool from Home Dump, put it on the top and bottom shafts and compare the numbers, that will tell the truth!..

http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=450&stc=1&d=1212634195

[GR8WHITE]

well as usual my v-drive seems to be a one off compared to everyone elses, as i stated in another thread brad and i took it apart and 1. there was no splitter bolt 2. there was no fill hole and the front case is identical to the rear case 3. i looked this morning before heading for work to see if i could get some numbers and all it says on it is casale eng. on the top, california on one side and los angeles on the other with level printed by the water holes. there are no numbers on this v-drive like the one in the picture art has. so tell me art how to use that thing in the picture you posted to figure out what degree the v-drive is.:D

[beaverfab]

GR8WHITE if you have it apart look on the gears if there 10 deg. they will be stamped as such, or 12 deg, if there is no marking there 12 deg. Early on there was only 12 deg. so they did not stamp the angle. Hope this helps. j.j.

[GR8WHITE]

well brad and i took the gears out a couple of weeks ago and they're straight cut 16's and the only things stamped on the gears were a 4.66 stamped on the same side as the ratio and # of teeth. and i am still not sure what the 4.66 means

[warpt71]

Month and year possibly? I think that "V-drive" is in fact "parallel"

[GR8WHITE]

hey warpt you guys were saying that the v-drive is mounted straight up and down but it is mounted at an angle, and the mounting brackets are angled, not much but they are. what do you mean by parallel?? are you referring to the angle of the propshaft to the driveshaft angle?

[RiverRacer]

Duhhh, no wonder you have staright cut gears with no degree numbers, it's because you don't even have a v-drive, you have a parallel drive, hello!...:D

http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=456&d=1212691817

[Flatmvn]

Yea looking at the pic that is a parallel case. The shafts are straight to each other there is no angle to them.

[RiverRacer]

Yea looking at the pic that is a parallel case. The shafts are straight to each other there is no angle to them.

You would think that Brad would have noticed that!. :D

[warpt71]

hey warpt you guys were saying that the v-drive is mounted straight up and down but it is mounted at an angle, and the mounting brackets are angled, not much but they are. what do you mean by parallel?? are you referring to the angle of the propshaft to the driveshaft angle?

What I was trying to say was that the "V-drive" is tilted back and NOT mounted strait up. That was my first clue. Parallel meaning that the input shaft (motor drive shaft) and the output shaft (prop shaft) in a perfict world wuold run parallel, like a set of train tracks. Because of "u-joints" your drive shaft probably went in an upward angle twards the back of the boat. This had to have been hard on the the drive shaft!

Duhhh, no wonder you have staright cut gears with no degree numbers, it's because you don't even have a v-drive, you have a parallel drive, hello!...:D

http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=456&d=1212691817


Thats exactly what I was saying :D :D

[warpt71]

OOOOOOhhhhhhh BRAD?!?!?!?!?! Still busy painting?
Or was it the fumes that day? LOL :D :D :D

[RiverRacer]

This had to have been hard on the the drive shaft!

Big time!...:eek:

[GR8WHITE]

so what were these parallel drives used for or in then?:confused:

[warpt71]

Where is "Mr. V-Driver" when ya need him?

Honestly Justin I have no clue??? Not a V-drive boat, thats for sure!

[GR8WHITE]

Where is "Mr. V-Driver" when ya need him?

Honestly Justin I have no clue??? Not a V-drive boat, thats for sure!

well atleast i dont have to worry about figuring out if its a 10 degree or 12 degree to sell it ;) and i guess that means i cant be part of this forum because its not a v-drive.

[RiverRacer]

You see them in off road stuff, also seen them in a wheel stander!..

[GR8WHITE]

anyone ever seen this in a boat before???????:D

[warpt71]

You see them in off road stuff, also seen them in a wheel stander!..

I forgot about the wheel standers! I remember being a kid and seeing the Hemi Under Glass and picking the v-drive out like a sore thumb and asking Dad, Did the get the engin out of a boat? lol

[RiverRacer]

I forgot about the wheel standers! I remember being a kid and seeing the Hemi Under Glass and picking the v-drive out like a sore thumb and asking Dad, Did the get the engin out of a boat? lol

That's funny, first time I saw one in something other than a boat it caught my attention real quick too,LOL..

[FC-Pilot]

anyone ever seen this in a boat before???????:D

I have seen it in a few old school boats. They are usually not high horse power deals.

Paul

[E-boat racer]

The original term "V-drive refered to any gearbox that sat in front of the
engine and drove the shaft back under the engine. These were either
parallel shaft or angular gear boxes. The "V" refered to the installation
method and not the angle of the gears. The Huckins PT boats and the
Elco(Electric Boat Co.) cruisers of the 40s all had rear engine, gearbox
forward cofigerations. The early Hallcraft V-drives were parallel with
straight spur gears. This was in the pre-Casale days. We ran parallel
shaft "Z" drives in our 266 and 7 litre hydros.
You can stay in the "club" with a parallel gearbox
Rob

[69 Shopbuilt]

My old flat top has 6217 on it. So would that mean it's a 12*?
Dave


There is a casting number on the case.

61000 is usualy a 10*
62500 is usualy a 12*

There were some 62500 they say that were 10* but I havent seen one. If I an wrong I am sure some one will correct me but those are the basics.

Louis

[Flatmvn]

My old flat top has 6217 on it. So would that mean it's a 12*?
Dave

If the top of yours is flat then you have a TOP LOADER more than likely, the Top Loader is different from the Split Case models that we have been discussing. The top loader uses different gears and is pressed together and I don't know what degree they are. I have never worked with a top loader so I am not the best one to be giving info about it. I am sure some one else will jump in with more info though.

[RiverRacer]

If the top of yours is flat then you have a TOP LOADER more than likely, the Top Loader is different from the Split Case models that we have been discussing. The top loader uses different gears and is pressed together and I don't know what degree they are. I have never worked with a top loader so I am not the best one to be giving info about it. I am sure some one else will jump in with more info though.

You are right Louis, and Top Loaders are all 12 degrees!..