Trailer Bearings

[warpt71]

Well it seems as though I have a "Frankenstein" trailer. For starters, there is no provision for the rear seal!!! The spindle is cut straight all the way to a flange. There should be a "step up" before this flange that the seal would ride on but its not there. I talked to a few local guys and the consciences was to have some spacers machined. These would be the same inside diameter as the bearing, (actually a touch tighter to be pressed onto the spindle), and sized to accept the seal. Also cut to the right width to allow the bearing to ride against it and to keep the seal off of the flange. The current setup just crushes the seal to the flange and destroys it. I can keep the bearings full of grease this way but the seals don't keep water out. Pain in my ass :mad: :mad: To top it all off, the two axels take different size bearings!

Opinions and options please :D :D

[RiverRacer]

This don't make sense, you got some weird spindles or something?? what does the bearing go up against??

[warpt71]

This don't make sense, you got some weird spindles or something?? what does the bearing go up against??

Yeah your tellin me!!!! Currently it just rides up against the flange? I know its not correct :confused:

I took some picturs w/ my phone this afternoon, I'll try to get them posted here......

[RiverRacer]

Yeah your tellin me!!!! Currently it just rides up against the flange? I know its not correct :confused:

I took some picturs w/ my phone this afternoon, I'll try to get them posted here......

Yeah, I'd like to see that!..:confused:

[warpt71]

Couple of the spindle
http://by135w.bay135.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=cbe69ecc-1aa6-41fb-80fd-0edaed06122a&Aux=4|0|8CA7995569884A0|
http://by135w.bay135.mail.live.com/att/GetAttachment.aspx?tnail=0&messageId=e6405bf2-d064-4e00-beef-f4e790980820&Aux=4|0|8CA799522F956B0|

[warpt71]

Feast your eyes!!!

Crappy cell phone, maybe tomorrow I can get better ones? Needless to say, I got nothing accomplished today other that getting a headache :mad: :mad: :mad:

[RiverRacer]

Pics don't show up maybe the phone???, e-mail them to me!..

[warpt71]

http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=251&d=1209617641
http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=252&d=1209617650

better???

[SonnyGlide]

I had the same prob. w/a HADCO trailer that was built for my Sanger, Ur Axels look just like mine, man I hunted all over the place, called Sanger, said they outsourced the trailers to the HADCO. trailer co.< their long gone!:(

but I was able to get the Seal's & Seal Races,< the part U really need, my odd-ball bearing sizes, and SS Buddy bearings from Waymire Distrubtion

Call Skip @ 1-800-434-4828:cool:

If U wanna save some $$$ on the seals/bearings call Kathis Giroux @ Atimus Bearings 1-800-666-6761
she might still have my part# and order sheet< C if they match up 2ur bearing #

tell her Sonny In Live Oak, Fl. refered U, that might jog her memory;)

[SonnyGlide]

Hadco. spindle measurements:
sm. o.d. = .865
lg. o.d. = 1.375
seal race 1.375 i.d. x 1.765 o.d.
Hub measurements:
sm. i.d. = 1.808
lg. i.d. = 2.355
Buddy Bearing/ 1.810
Bearings:
sm./ LM 12749
lg./ LM 68149
Seal CR 17270

C if U have a Hadco. trailer by the above measurements
hope this helps

[BradP]

They have the seal races at The Anchor in Reseda.
Get extra the little fuggers split easily. :D

[RiverRacer]

Ok, that's common no biggie just get the Bearing Budy O-Ring seal kits for your spindle size, bada bing done deal, I just did one like that last year!..

http://www.v-driveboat.com/vweb/attachment.php?attachmentid=252&d=1209617650

[warpt71]

So your sayin there is hope for it yet!!! Thanks guys, why do they even still have counter men at parts stores, they are all good for nothing other than taking your money and giving you the change that the computer tells them to. I feel better now :D

[warpt71]

Ok, that's common no biggie just get the Bearing Budy O-Ring seal kits for your spindle size, bada bing done deal, I just did one like that last year!..

Art, Im a little confused? I need the seal races like Brad said. Are you talking about the same thing???

[RiverRacer]

Art, Im a little confused? I need the seal races like Brad said. Are you talking about the same thing???

Not sure but this is what I used!...

Spindle Seal! (http://www.bearingbuddy.com/spindle_seal.html)

[warpt71]

Hum? does the steal ring press into the hub or ride on the spindle? The step up in diamiter right befor the flange is not there on my spindle, its the same size all the way up to the flange.
http://www.bearingbuddy.com/graphics/spindle.gif
I have 2 stops to make tomorrow, The Anchor and a trailer shop in Chatsworth. Hopefully some one will have something on the shelf

[RiverRacer]

Can't go by that spindle diagram it don't make sense to me,lol, The bearing seats up against the seal ring and holds it in place!..

[warpt71]

Its getting that stainless steal ring to fit that has me concerned. I have new correct seals for my bearings and hubs. The bearings fit the spindle just fine but the seal doesn't make contact w/ the spindle anywhere.

[RiverRacer]

As I said the bearing holds it in place along with the seal, the kit comes with the necessary seal which is different than the ones you have, it's a total kit just slip it on like the directions say done deal!.

[warpt71]

Well no luck today, worked 12 hours instead and had no time to get anywhere. Im going to go hunting in the am for those seals Art, they sound like the ticket. Thanks again :D

[RiverRacer]

Well no luck today, worked 12 hours instead and had no time to get anywhere. Im going to go hunting in the am for those seals Art, they sound like the ticket. Thanks again :D

Anytime amigo, pay back is a bitch though you owe me a ride!..:D

[warpt71]

In a TOWABLE :D :D :D lol

[RiverRacer]

In a TOWABLE :D :D :D lol

Focken smart azzz!..:D

[shooter2]

Anytime amigo, pay back is a bitch though you owe me a ride!..:D

Art must be Jonesing for a ride. I know the feeling all to well

Brian

[RiverRacer]

Art must be Jonesing for a ride. I know the feeling all to well

Brian

Damn right, gotta keep the sanity!..:D:D

[warpt71]

Well.................It looks as though I’m striking out every where :mad: :mad: I have been completely un-successful in finding proper seals for my trailer bearings. On top of it all, I don’t think Ill be going to the River this weekend. A new set of axles is about $600 and I couldn’t even get them in time if I could afford them. Totally bummed

[RiverRacer]

Well that sucks, didn't Bearing Buddy have the kits for your spindle size????...

[warpt71]

Nobody has had anything!!! I have 2 options at this point, have spacers machined that will take up the gap (diameter) between the spindle od and the seal id of get new axles and hubs and be done. If I were to find the same type of seal that is currently on there what would be the odds of finding them again??? Everyone seems to think that they are that obsolete

[ando79]

try Rex Marine? I had to get mine from there, and I live in Australia!!:D

[RiverRacer]

Nobody has had anything!!! I have 2 options at this point, have spacers machined that will take up the gap (diameter) between the spindle od and the seal id of get new axles and hubs and be done. If I were to find the same type of seal that is currently on there what would be the odds of finding them again??? Everyone seems to think that they are that obsolete

Wow, must be some oddball stuff there, you try going directly to Buddy Bearing???, if they do have them just buy up spares!.:D

[warpt71]

What I have is a Pendleton seal LM-48548 Pat. no 3169809. The seal fits a modern A-5 bearing. This seal seals directly to the baring and the bearing rides on the flange at the end of the spindle. I finally talked to someone that has seen this set up before and they told me good luck!! These are Hadkco axles and they are outa business as well. I’m hell-bent to get to the River this weekend so I put it back together and Ill fix it right when I get back w/ new axles. The seals will hold the grease in but will not keep water out! I’m pretty sure that things will be fine for this weekend. Especially w/ all new grease in all the bearings :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[RiverRacer]

What I have is a Pendleton seal LM-48548 Pat. no 3169809. The seal fits a modern A-5 bearing. This seal seals directly to the baring and the bearing rides on the flange at the end of the spindle. I finally talked to someone that has seen this set up before and they told me good luck!! These are Hadkco axles and they are outa business as well. I’m hell-bent to get to the River this weekend so I put it back together and Ill fix it right when I get back w/ new axles. The seals will hold the grease in but will not keep water out! I’m pretty sure that things will be fine for this weekend. Especially w/ all new grease in all the bearings :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Well that's a bummer, but if you have Bearing Buddy's on before you launch pump them with grease to keep the pressure on when it cools down in the water that should keep the water out, may make a mess but WTF at least it'll keep water off the bearings!...

[warpt71]

Yep!!! Im planning a stop at Rex on the way out Friday mornin to get a set. Hopefully they will fin the new stuff when I get there and Im not waisting my cash.

[RiverRacer]

Well, good luck hope it all works out, when you get to Rex say hi to Mike for me!..

[AzDon]

I had a setup where the stainless ring from Art's diagram was marine tex'd over the square part of the axle and a seal with a very large ID rode on it

[RiverRacer]

I had a setup where the stainless ring from Art's diagram was marine tex'd over the square part of the axle and a seal with a very large ID rode on it

I've seen that done before, some people don't believe that the bearing and the seal holds the sleeve in place!.

[Norseman]

Try here

http://www.hadcoengineering.com/

[RiverRacer]

Try here

http://www.hadcoengineering.com/

Wow they finally moved, they been in Anaheim forever!..

[warpt71]

Thats the company!!! I really dont care for that set-up and I dont think that their seals would ever be water tight. I would rather have something standard that I can get parts for wherever I may end up, lol, not that Ill be needing to buy parts all the time!!!

[RiverRacer]

That's why you use "genuine" Bearing Buddy!..:D

[warpt71]

That is what will be on order next paycheck, I hope!

[RiverRacer]

That is what will be on order next paycheck, I hope!

After you fill up the gas tank to go to work right, LOL..:D:D

[warpt71]

Na, more like fill them up to get home form the River this weekend!!! Its gonna hurt

[RiverRacer]

Oh yeah, that's gonna hurt big time!..:D

[Norseman]

I paid less per gallon, for the last 4 drums I bought of VP Racing Fuel, $3.65 gal then I did last night for regular unleaded $3.799.

[RiverRacer]

I paid less per gallon, for the last 4 drums I bought of VP Racing Fuel, $3.65 gal then I did last night for regular unleaded $3.799.

What a rip off!..:mad::mad:

[Norseman]

What a rip off!..:mad::mad:

Art;

I'm sure by Labor Day gas in NY will be almost $5.00 a gallon.

:mad::mad:

[RiverRacer]

Art;

I'm sure by Labor Day gas in NY will be almost $5.00 a gallon.

:mad:

Such bull$hit, guess they go by the general income, this is minimum wage scab country here, so they're saying $4.00 here!..:mad: Even with the price of oil they'd still make a bundle at $2.00, good ole gubment for ya!..:rolleyes::mad: